tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post4665709567941259105..comments2024-03-23T08:00:26.020+00:00Comments on THE MONARCHIST: A Patriotic Idea for the 21st CenturyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post-46942283214252894872011-11-10T18:06:56.465+00:002011-11-10T18:06:56.465+00:00Stephen Leacock and the other Imperial Federationi...Stephen Leacock and the other Imperial Federationists had the right idea, there is apparently a United Commonwealth Society which still advocates imperial federation they have a website at least. http://ucs.110mb.com/materials.htmlLeacockhttp://43586864.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post-44457374974348300102011-02-07T04:30:25.758+00:002011-02-07T04:30:25.758+00:00This is not the first I've seen of this idea.
...This is not the first I've seen of this idea.<br />In fact, there is a Wikipedia entry about it.<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_unification_movementA Loyal Canadianhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_unification_movementnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post-10457311443623486932010-12-21T03:45:02.973+00:002010-12-21T03:45:02.973+00:00I agree with that. Give new meaning to ''U...I agree with that. Give new meaning to ''United we stand''. Against terrorism this time round rather than Japs and Germans. Plus it would be nice to see Britain and Australia with closer ties, at the moment the Ashes is the only time we have much to do with eachother.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post-41426642991804672902010-11-25T21:25:37.239+00:002010-11-25T21:25:37.239+00:00A fantastic idea which would certainly re-forge th...A fantastic idea which would certainly re-forge the old bonds the 'Old Commonwealth' once had, the type of bond that kept us unified through two world wars! Withdraw Britain from the corrupt, gravy train that is the EU and kick start new relations with old friends.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12855692686108239318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post-39814843405617283572009-11-19T04:21:30.133+00:002009-11-19T04:21:30.133+00:00"He admired Islam always."
Methinks he ..."He admired Islam always."<br /><br />Methinks he would not do so today! If you judge us so removed from all that is espoused in the foul creed of Islam, well, colour me proud. <br /><br />"each country would still be completely sovereign in its own right"<br /><br />Indeed. This would work best as a confederation of like minds. As much as we are able to have such a thing now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post-18600411410674068572009-11-18T22:21:29.867+00:002009-11-18T22:21:29.867+00:00I do not see why it should be called the United Ki...I do not see why it should be called the United Kingdoms, a United Kingdom of Great Britain, Northern Ireland, Australia and New Zealand does not sound that bad to the ear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post-42329582957003243762009-11-17T21:48:08.043+00:002009-11-17T21:48:08.043+00:00I think that a straight forward federation along f...I think that a straight forward federation along federal lines would be preferable, but this is not that bad an idea. In a federal (although perhaps a name with a nicer ring to it could be selected) would not be in need of another wasteful level of government ,aside from England any other areas not already given devolved parliaments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post-68377819856452090762009-11-17T20:59:29.273+00:002009-11-17T20:59:29.273+00:00Splendid idea!Splendid idea!Bolingbrokehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07403736132216152383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post-17094899555374074202009-11-17T18:56:13.608+00:002009-11-17T18:56:13.608+00:00Appreciate the comments.
As I said, each country...Appreciate the comments. <br /><br />As I said, each country would still be completely sovereign in its own right, and would be masters in their own house. Effectively each country would hold a veto, and any foreign policy decision would require unanimous consensus. Not a difficult task given how much we have in common, even though we would each have differing hemispheric perspectives.Beaverbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06957034620891207177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post-12310600599556093982009-11-17T10:41:18.899+00:002009-11-17T10:41:18.899+00:00By the way - is Hannan wearing a Garrick tie? I r...By the way - is Hannan wearing a Garrick tie? I remember Ken Clarke being accused of "dog whistle" tactics by wearing the egg-and-bacon MCC tie a lot during the 2001 Tory leadership contest...Crux Australishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11825759533462852679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post-71989920762166064872009-11-17T09:28:16.924+00:002009-11-17T09:28:16.924+00:00thnxxx for sharing....
public speakingthnxxx for sharing....<br /><br /><a href="www.anuragaggarwal.com" rel="nofollow">public speaking</a>Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17529312110752417139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post-16204677581021301212009-11-17T07:23:10.788+00:002009-11-17T07:23:10.788+00:00If Pakistan wishes to be in the Commonwealth, hist...If Pakistan wishes to be in the Commonwealth, history is on their side. Rudyard Kipling's first big story was as assistant editor of the CMG in Lahore for the Amir of Afghanistan's state visit in 1885. The "Ballad of East and West" was inspired by his meeting an Afghan on the train that year. He admired Islam always. Read "The Eye of Allah." It is we who have become barbaric.<br />Before considering the old ideal of Imperial federation, Kipling's fine lines which were removed from the Chapel of Remembrance in the Peace Tower in Ottawa in 1983 must be restored:<br />They are too near to be great<br />but our children shall understand<br />when and how our fate<br />was changed and by whose hand--<br />There was a move to amend the linguistic imbalance in the Chapel, and--this text did not find favour.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post-29040312135423656322009-11-17T07:20:15.306+00:002009-11-17T07:20:15.306+00:00There are dumber ideas around. The problem though...There are dumber ideas around. The problem though is the total lack of consistency in policy - a Kiwi holding the post would go hardline on things like nuclear proliferation, whereas a Brit or Canadian might go for debt relief for Africa. And the countries have different party cycles - would a Labour PM from the UK be able to speak for a National Kiwi, or a Liberal Canadian? <br /><br />Still, as I said, there are dumber ideas. There's already a lot of very intimate international cooperation between the UK, Can, Aust and NZ in all sorts of ways, esp. the UK-Aust security relationship, which has its own ministerial meetings.<br /><br />In UN ballots, Aust/NZ often get lumped in the Western European and Others group so we often lose. This would give us a share of a Security Council vote. Interesting.Crux Australishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11825759533462852679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post-51127688966331849632009-11-17T04:53:21.886+00:002009-11-17T04:53:21.886+00:00Cheers, Beaverbrook. I've advocated a similar ...Cheers, Beaverbrook. I've advocated a similar idea for ages. However, are we not simply speaking of the Old Commonwealth? Certainly the EU is a disaster. In my reckoning so is the current Commonwealth. Let us be rid of Pakistan once and for all. Let us have a Commonwealth of Nations loyal to HM.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post-7607347283212284732009-11-17T04:46:44.158+00:002009-11-17T04:46:44.158+00:00I would never regard NZ as a small island.I would never regard NZ as a small island.Kiplinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04838567321326673782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post-11845333172757594512009-11-17T02:57:38.824+00:002009-11-17T02:57:38.824+00:00A "small island inthe South Pacific" - l...A "small island inthe South Pacific" - like New Zealand, PNG, Solomons...<br /><br />But of course you are right in your sentiment - too many people seem to think the only thing the Monarchry is good for is selling womans magazines at the supermarket. But they confuse the institution with the actual personalities.<br /><br />Which is just the same here in NZ and no doubt in Australia. Seems that educating our kids on the basics of how their country actually works is sadly beyond most education departments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post-37134726098068931782009-11-17T01:59:24.208+00:002009-11-17T01:59:24.208+00:00"Some say I'm dreamer / but I',m not ..."Some say I'm dreamer / but I',m not the only one..."<br /><br />I think you know me well enough that I would be delighted if we moved in this direction. It is also fair enough to say that this blog is doing more than promoting the monarchy, it's promoting a way of viewing the world for which the monarchy is a living symbol. <br /><br />During the recent visit of the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall, much was made of the fact that many Canadians wanted to get rid of the Crown. Usually the questions were phrased in the terms of relevance. Of course most people don't think the monarchy is relevant, they haven't been taught anything about it. I don't recall anyone even mentioning the monarchy in any civics class or history class I took in school.<br /><br />If people are not taught or explained the importance of something, they don't think it is relevant. If monarchy was taught in the schools, and the British traditions it represents, then yes Canadians would instinctively turn to the other Commonwealth nations in the Personal Union. <br /><br />Canadian intellectual and political life is dominated by two types: the continentalist seeking to become cold weather American clones and the provincialists who imagine Canada sits on some small island in the South Pacific. There are also the world federalists, but they are still a minority outside the more eccentric corners of academia.<br /><br />Pierre Trudeau famously asked: "Who speaks for Canada?" In modern Canada, Australia, NZ, the Caribbean states, who speaks for the Commonwealth? Who would speak for the United Kingdoms?Kiplinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04838567321326673782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8162816964941896969.post-6162797969899603732009-11-16T22:07:45.710+00:002009-11-16T22:07:45.710+00:00What I would give to be a Knight of the Realm resi...What I would give to be a Knight of the Realm resident in New Zealand. Sounds almost like heaven!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com